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Dutch retailer pulls Meta glasses as hundreds of women reportedly filmed
MadeInDex 📰🌎https://cybernews.com/ai-news/meta-glasses-pulled-hans-anders/
Another win for privacy <3
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The problem with the light is, it’s incredibly small and dim, so is very easy to miss. Plus, people aren’t aware of what to look for yet because they’re not used to being around this “perv-vision”.
I saw a guy at a sandwich shop with them and he was loud and bragging about them which was the only reason I knew he had them.
I’m honestly shocked they’re allowed in Illinois being there’s the “all party consent” law still in effect where any audio surveillance or recording needs to make all parties aware they’re being recorded. Then add in the BIPA (biometric information privacy act) where you KNOW Meta is going to use face ID or facial recognition to tag or show the owner who’s who.
US https://www.change.org/p/ban-meta-glasses-ray-ban-from-public-and-private-use
Pervvision….
Brought to you by Ray Ban, the world leader in perv glasses
Ray Ban’s image has got to be permanently damaged from this
The problem with the light is, it’s incredibly small and dim, so is very easy to miss. Plus, people aren’t aware of what to look for yet because they’re not used to being around this “perv-vision”.
I saw a guy at a sandwich shop with them and he was loud and bragging about them which was the only reason I knew he had them.
I’m honestly shocked they’re allowed in Illinois being there’s the “all party consent” law still in effect where any audio surveillance or recording needs to make all parties aware they’re being recorded. Then add in the BIPA (biometric information privacy act) where you KNOW Meta is going to use face ID or facial recognition to tag or show the owner who’s who.
US https://www.change.org/p/ban-meta-glasses-ray-ban-from-public-and-private-use
If camera glasses would be banned under all party consent then every last camera and microphone would be banned.
All party consent may only apply in private, too. A sandwich shop doesn’t count.
It’s the audio recording that matters. In Illinois, you can have cameras, no problem, but no audio UNLESS you post signage up about having audio video surveillance. This way even in public you’re “notified” about audio being used.
In a sandwich shop, I might speak at a low enough volume a camera mic wouldn’t pick me up. With no one around me to hear, the expectation is whomever I’m speaking to would be private, while in public, and they’re not recording the convo either.
I’m sure news orgs don’t have to disclose that every time they interview someone in the streets.
JulThey need to make it a big giant bright flashing light for recording like some old video cameras had on them.
The creeps will just find a way to remove it.
Yeah, I mean there are glasses that already exist that are designed to be less obvious they have cameras on them, but they aren’t sold en masse to the general public that way. You can’t avoid it. And modding for illicit purposes is always going to be an issue with any technology. But the majority of people don’t have those skills and it will be more obvious to people once they know what to look for, if the light is removed or covered up. At least it would create a socially awkward situation for the majority, just like not aiming your phone camera around inside a changing room isn’t a major issue because people know where the camera is. Knowing an individual pair of glasses has a camera isn’t as easy as knowing all phones have one, so more of an indicator is needed. Of course there are still people who film in changing rooms with their phones, but it dissuades the casual from creeps doing it.
I finally got to handle a demo pair at Best Buy a few weeks back. They feel cheap and creaky. No one mentions this.
they don’t care if men are filmed?
You may not be aware of this or do it intentionally but responding “what about the men” when the topic focuses on “women” is a common frustration online.
The reverse scenario, where the focus is men rarely gets a comment “how about women”
You’re technically not wrong though, everyone could be affected and i do expect journalistic pieces to be inform more broadly about an issue, but the issue does seem to disproportionally affect people who appear to be women and its also fair to note this difference.
I am sure there is no ill will on your part but i have seen online “fights” break out over this pattern. At first it confused me but once you understand it, you notice it everytime even when the post is by and for women and posted on a women focused community it will get a comment like this.
There are enough articled and discussions calling out the meta privacy issue in a non gendered way. The few adressing women are not harming any man.
JessyKenningI wanted to take a moment to applaud your reasoned and articulate response. tldr : well said.
why does it have to be gendered?
Having done a few clicks to look into why this specific article is gendered.
Cybernews is reporting an article By NL times
The article by NL times was already gendered.
NL Times has wrote other non gendered articles on this issue but this article was prompted by a lawsuit being prepared by Offlimits
Offlimits is an organization that combats sexual abuse.
The context of this Lawsuit is the discovery of telegram and other channels for the distribution of “creepshots”, often sexually pictures taken from compromising angles.
The victims of these creepshots are almost always women.
Its similar to catcalling. It does happen to both genders but if it happens to men its a noticeable rare event. By the time a women reaches adulthood its another tuesday.
Why doesn’t anyone mention how boys are not filming other kids dicks in the bathroom at school and causing inadvertent child porn?
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If anyone had warned this poor retailer in advance… Unfortunately only these lunatic privacy-obsessed and hysteric women foretold this exact scenerio so there was no way to tell.
I’m sorry, but every article that doesn’t mention the incredibly easy and widespread disabling of the light is sucking meta’s disinformation cock
Obligatory Joanna “The Wonderful” Stern Link
Yes. I also like how you framed it. “Disabling of the light is sucking meta’s disinformation cock” is poetic.
damn, a dremel and some resin to make it appear unmodified again are enough? the dremel is probably optional - my soldering iron would probably suffice, and some transparent tape well placed could also do the job in a pinch. If Meta wanted these glasses to not be so easily modable, they would have implemented at lease SOME check - make the camera look for the light of the led or smth - make it flash a OTP code to be recognized by the cam, which is fucking easy to do
Wait, what? I did not expect The Netherlands to sell these piece of shit stuff. I had hoped, it would be banned/ prohibited in The Netherlands. It should be.
Parliament has expressed the desire for a clearer ban on these glasses a few weeks ago
https://nos.nl/artikel/2632327-tweede-kamer-wil-breder-en-duidelijker-verbod-op-camerabril
We already have privacy legislation, and it is already not allowed to secretly film someone and share the footage. So parliament is mostly talking about making it more explicit that these camera glasses are not allowed.
They are currently awaiting an advisory on “AI wearables” by the European Committee for Data Protection, which will arrive later this autumn.
But it’s perfectly OK to do as long as you’re the only one watching it afterwards!?
That’s how most of the world works with regards to filming in public.
Last time I went to The Hague, I saw a dedicated rayban/meta store in the city centre
Surprisingly the covert camera glasses are being used as cameras
The problem with the light is, it’s incredibly small and dim, so is very easy to miss. Plus, people aren’t aware of what to look for yet because they’re not used to being around this “perv-vision”.
I saw a guy at a sandwich shop with them and he was loud and bragging about them which was the only reason I knew he had them.
I’m honestly shocked they’re allowed in Illinois being there’s the “all party consent” law still in effect where any audio surveillance or recording needs to make all parties aware they’re being recorded. Then add in the BIPA (biometric information privacy act) where you KNOW Meta is going to use face ID or facial recognition to tag or show the owner who’s who.
US https://www.change.org/p/ban-meta-glasses-ray-ban-from-public-and-private-use
UK https://www.change.org/p/ban-meta-ai-glasses
A Dutch tv comic has addressed this exact problem lately, by going to meta head office and filming employees with the meta glasses:
https://youtu.be/dHKhYL3is5o
The most briljant bit: one asks him if he’s filming right now and he says:’ Well you could tell from the light right here, but it’s very easily obscured so you’ll never know’
“reportedly”
Hundreds or maybe even thousands or maybe even dozens. Reportedly.