Gen Z's 'overemployed' solution for a broken economy: 5 jobs and $3K per day. It's totally legal
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This article makes me want to vomit. Like blaming people who are forced to work multiple jobs to survive and treating them like criminals.
Fuck you. These aren't billionaires hoarding wealth, they are people who can't afford school, a place to live, or their next meal. If one job can't support them, then they'll take five!
Even if the work is getting done, Maleh says employers care because:
It creates trust issues: If you’re hiding this, what else are you hiding?
Even if the work is getting done, eh? These are the same employers who underpay and want to spy on their workers as if they were prison inmates, right?
Fuck you twice!
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For once, the quiet part is quiet; in order to suppress worker's rights, employers need us at a disadvantage. Any breathing room, comfort, success, or independence we can win threatens them because they like us weak.
This is Fortune magazine so it's probably an affront of fiefdom that one person-one job traditionally abuts. Now managers have to compete with each other through the worker and the worker has the power to take sides and screw upwards. Someone isn't getting help unless they all work together. It's upsetting the work/life balance that used to be one-way.
Those are not the people they're talking about. The article is about people with good paying jobs taking more than one. They're gaming the system and I'm all for it.
I think it's selfish. How many of those jobs could have gone to someone who actually needs one? It's essentially job hoarding. If you're that much of a productive genius, why don't you (the people with multiple well-paying jobs, not you personally) volunteer or start your own business and do something to actually improve the world instead of just hoarding wealth.
If you’re hiding this, what else are you hiding?
Hiding? So now everything we don't share is hiding?
I can't wait to go tell my boss about the massive shit I took this morning. I don't want to hide anything from my employer!
CEOs have one job and earn $100k a day. It’s totally legal!
I can't even land a single job at the moment, how are these shits getting five?
I mean if I can satisfy your requirements by working two hours of your nonsense job, then why would I work 8.
And if that nonsense job doesn't pay enough to live then I'll work another one of those.
That's logic, not crime.
Why would my job see my taxes?
They can see your W4 withholding and any deductions like child support or garnishments. They cannot see anything beyond their payroll system.
SOURCE: Worked IT for a payroll firm.
Have these whiners considered a living wage and affordable, good insurance? Self-insured businesses are absolutely possible, and megacorporations can afford it.
Good. Lot of these companies contribute nothing to society other than GDP and consumerism.
You can replace workers with AI but not customers.
Wealth redistribution is required to fix the majority of economic and social issues globally.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives.
unless your influencer, which are already welloff or wealth individual you arnt getting 3k per day.
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Gen Z here, you're speaking facts and I hate that gen z is in no way advocating for themselves. I dont understand it.
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There's already a term for this, it's called moonlighting.
Every full-time salaried job I've ever had prohibits moonlighting, and specifically calls it out in the employment contract I've had to sign when starting the job.
Having said that, I am unemployed directly and entirely because of Donald Trump. Although I have no plans to return to work in the immediate future (because I was privileged enough to be in a position where I was able to save for a rainy day like this), when I return to work I am considering doing this.
As long as I'm making my deadlines and producing quality work, my employer should not give a crap whether I have other jobs. Period. I've spent my entire career so far working with bosses that tell me I'm family, but treat me like dirt and discard me at the very first sign of an economic downturn. They are all the same. So, when you treat people like disposable cogs, don't be surprised when and if those cogs fit a variety of different machines.
They say 'family' hoping you'll think Ward & June Cleaver, but there's a lot of families out there I want nothing to do with. Come in drunk & beat the shit out of the partner. Lose the rent money on DraftKings. Little hanky-panky with the kid. When the boss wants to be family, that's what you should think about.
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But that's kinda it: the act of working at an extra job, especially without telling your main employer
In my case, I tell my hiring manager when I sign the hiring doc: "I've been moonlighting for 22 years. It's as-available contract night work, and it's always more lucrative than OT or standby so I'll decline where possible. You won't notice, but I'm mentioning it up-front."
And then I sign. If I need to cross out some weird "we also own your free time" clause, I will do so and call it out as such.
I hate it here.
It’s hard enough finding one job - how in the hell are these people getting five?
I'd assume these are all low paying remote jobs. It's probably pretty easy to hold down 2-3 remote customer service roles, especially if they are not live answering calls, think answering email/online form questionnaires. Throw on some kind of data entry role, and I can't imagine it'd be that difficult.
When I was job hunting, these were hiring dime a dozen, just the pay is shit.
Assuming they are making the 3k with 5 jobs and 8 hours a day, that's still averaging 75 bucks an hour.
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Have these whiners considered a living wage and affordable, good insurance? Self-insured businesses are absolutely possible, and megacorporations can afford it.
No one wants try to talk about how OE people are just exasperating inflation
At peak I (barely) juggled 7. I'm down to 3 now though because the sleep deprivation and stress was too much.
I still meet all deadlines, support the team, and meet or exceed expectations in performance reviews. That might be why it's a little harder to maintain, I know people who don't give two shits about that stuff.
I've probably taken years off my life, but I've bumped up being able to retire a little earlier so I guess it evens out.
Yeah it's legal, why wouldn't it be? This writing is awful. You know what technically legal is? Legal. Why do they keep mentioning it over and over.
The article takes on a tone that the poor business is suffering because they are getting a fast one pulled over on them. Boo fucking hoo.
I say enjoy it while it lasts.
If you can perform the work of five positions in the same amount of time, then you're unnecessary and AI will fill all of those rolls in short time. Those people, unless they adapt quickly, will find themselves in low paid, high stress jobs, just verifying the work of the AI instead.
TIL Heracles was actually a weak soyboy because he had the strength to do the work of ten men.
He's a weak soyboy compared to the steam engine. John Henry is the better comparison.
AI will likely not be taking many jobs - it's continuing to be unreliable for most circumstances.
That's not to say all circumstances. Regardless, the industries that use it heavily will likely destroy themselves. Having people doing that work is how you prepare them to do the more difficult work that AI is even more unlikely to succeed at... so you are starving yourself of a workforce for the more important jobs in your industry. The pool of people with X years of experience will shrink to nothing, and they won't be willing to hide newbies.