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LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺 :lesbian_flag:So i need some input.
I think to replace my unify gear for european / open source one.
And i heavily hesitate between an opensource router with opnsense (from eu).
Or a mikrotik router.
Can any #network or #mikrotik #opensense #pfsense user give me any input.
Also does the one you own provide update / system update to EU server (even as mirror).
i need multiple wifi AP that share the same network
Thanks
#question #fedihelp #network #internet #eu #buyeu @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
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@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
I finally removed my last Unifi device last year and am not looking back.
I was trying to decide the same, but went with MikroTik since I wanted a solution that covered all my network gear. I also didn't want either US or Non-NATO based solutions. I've been very happy with my choice. Just be careful with the APs. There are US-only models floating around on Ebay. If you buy those, you will get locked out of usable bands.
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@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
I'll let Microtik field this question for their side, but this is actually one of the major reasons I started moving away from Ubiquiti. Ubiquiti's support for many for their Edgerouter products seemed very hit or miss only after a few years. They would technically receive security updates, but little to nothing else.
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social I'm not an expert, but I'd probably go with the DIY open source approach a supported hardware platform. There you'd full control over the software mirrors and such details.
I use Plasma Cloud access points myself. While they're not technically European, they're not American, either.
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@lexinova @funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social
> i would literally prefer to go Chinese backdoor road that anything US right now.
Steady on... if you're trying to avoid being snooped rolling your own with FOSS is probably the best bet. Being snooped by someone else isn't solving anything.
Unfortunately that is very hard with wireless cards, consumer ones have limits on the number of stations they will act as AP for and proprietary firmware. There are no modern fully FOSS solutions AFAIK.
@lexinova @funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social Can't remember the details, but the AP roaming can be done with openwrt. We've got a couple of cheapish APs, I think ginet brand (?) and there was a setting to 'link' them together. I'd have to look up the details, but if openwrt can do it, I guess generic linux could too
I have a pfsense firewall and a mikrotik AP. Works great. With PfSense, I highly recommend you buy it on an appliance though. There are online shops in the EU which deliver it to you. Check the website.
On the MicroTik, the only complaint I have is that the Web GUI is a complete mess. It’s a Wi-Fi AP but every feature that any microtic product has is still visible and can even be changed by user input in the GUI. So you can mess around with 5G settings in spite of the fact it’s just a Wi-Fi AP. It does nothing, but clutter the UI.
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik for the mirror, I have a openwrt archive on mine. For the WiFi stuff, if you manage to find something that does AP roaming, I m very interested
I had Mikrotik APs, it was terrible, my phone kept losing connection, handover between APs caused long delays, and of course it had the famous Mikrotik UI.
I switched to Ubiquiti and the problems are gone.
I use a Mikrotik wired routers and switches at work and they’re fine, no complaints, but if you never interacted with their UI or CLI, watch some tutorial before you buy, because it’s not in everyone’s taste.
I have OPNSense as a VM and it looks easy enough to use, updates work fine, I never tried pushing it beyond the features it has built in though.
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik just brought a cAP AC and couldn't be happier. Bit of a steep learnimg curve.
Also brought a CSS326 in error, was supposed to be a CRS, and the hardware looks fine but the French supplier is awful (@mikrotik happy to name and shame them if you're curious) insisting it is returned to Poland. Am still going to get a CRS326 and an outdoor cAP.
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@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik Retaining your Unifi APs and running OPNSense on a pick-your-own-x86 router has plenty of appeal.
OPNSense is more user-friendly than Mikrotik, IMO. And, under the UI it's regular FreeBSD which you can log into and diagnose with familiar networking tools.
The APs don't need a 24/7 controller - although a VM running the Ubuntu based unifios works just fine. In fact it looks like you might be able to manage/configure them from a smart-phone app (haven't tried this).
The APs can all be placed in a management VLAN with no external access while running different VLANs for their client's wifi traffic.
In theory, the APs could still snoop by masquerading as a client but that has a higher risk of discovery which would certainly annoy the heck out of their entire enterprise market which is their bread and butter.
I don't think you'll find Open Source APs that work as well as the unifi ones (or similar commercial offerings). The product range gives a lot of deployment flexibility and the integrated configuration management is pretty nice - as you know.
@lexinova you can build (or buy) a very capable router/firewall with opnsense. If the DIY aspect is attractive I'd go that way. I did that for a while and eventually switched to Mikrotik as I wanted a minimum-moving-parts setup for my infrastructure (which is not a homelab - it needs to function damn near 100%).
WiFi APs are a different story. I have Mikrotik there also and their Capsman works well but Unifi have the usability edge for roaming.
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@lexinova that being said it is only a matter of proper configuration to get reliable roaming on any equipment. Key is to NOT turn transmit power up to max., thereby preventing clients from selecting the best AP.
The newer Mikrotik devices have much better radio interfaces now and are well usable.
There is little wrong with buying other devices and putting Openwrt on them. I just don't really want to support manufacturers shipping shitty software.
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